Halo: Reach

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  1. Cookie

    Cookie #TaylorSwift XBW.nl VIP

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    Of net zoals AVGN: "Fire, fuck, fire fire!" :+

    Geef mij inderdaad ook maar een steady crosshair. Het is wel verwarrend op die screen maar ik kan me niet voorstellen dat ze van de huidige aim af zullen wijken aangezien het er niet veel beter op wordt. Wat is er immers mis met een normale aim...
     
  2. Kevf

    Kevf Hardcore poster

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    wat veel interessanter is, wat is daar links van gecensureerd!
     
  3. Metal Mark

    Metal Mark VIP Dino XBW.nl VIP

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    haha inderdaad, was me niet eens opgevallen 8)
     
  4. Willem

    Willem Obi-Willem XBW.nl Bestuur

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    Nu wil ik het ook weten. :+ Hm, spannend!
     
  5. Delphiki

    Delphiki Active Member

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    een Natal specifiek stukje HUD natuurlijk :+
     
  6. Heroic

    Heroic Halo

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    Vind het geen probleem dat er Natal in zit. Zolang het ook met de controller te spelen blijft, en voornamelijk multiplayer.
     
  7. WOUW5

    WOUW5 Cpt. Censorshades!

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    Wie zegt dat het een crosshair is? Misschien geeft het een objective aan. (Betreffende die screen van Dulle op de vorige pagina dus.)
     
  8. EXCEDO

    EXCEDO :)

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    De gecensureerde is misschien wel silencer op silencer af? Kan me in ieder geval niet herinneren dat de assault rifle zo een grote loop had alhoewel dit wel een eerdere model is.
     
  9. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    Tsja, zo ziet de crosshair er tot nu toe eenmaal uit. Denk niet dat ze dat tekentje opeens voor objectives gaan gebruiken.

    Zie;

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  10. WOUW5

    WOUW5 Cpt. Censorshades!

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    Ja, er zijn gelijkenissen, maar hij is niet precies hetzelfde :p. We zullen nog wel zien wat hoe het kan dat daarlinks dat ding hangt.
     
  11. Wooffa

    Wooffa Deus Ex Machina

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    Hoezo zou je met Natal géén crosshair nodig hebben? Ik denk niet dat het ontbreken van de crosshair een reden is om te geloven dat je het met Natal gaat besturen in ieder geval of dat het überhaupt een hint is naar iets van Natal. Maar ben wel heel benieuwd wat het dan wél is. :9
     
  12. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    Het 'probleem' is niet dat er geen crosshair is. ;) Het 'probleem' is dat de crosshair zo ver aan de linkerkant zit.

    Zoals je dat soms bij Wii-shooters ziet.
     
  13. Wooffa

    Wooffa Deus Ex Machina

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    Oooooh, wtf. Had ik nog niet eens gezien. :+

    Ok, vergeet mijn vorige post. O-)
     
  14. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    Vergeet niet om op de plaatjes te klikken voor HD versies! :) >>

    Halo: Reach - 3D Art Evolved

    By now you've no doubt succumbed to the onslaught of new Halo: Reach information and imagery that's sweeping across the internet and newsstands. The first screenshots from our next game, generated from a pre-alpha build last November, have garnered a lot of attention, buzz and in some cases, furious debate. I tend to agree that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," with each of us forming our own personal opinions of what is and isn't visually pleasing. However, regardless of your personal artistic preferences between the new direction of Reach compared to that of our prior Halo games, there's no denying that with a powerful new technical foundation, our incredibly talented art team is pulling out all the stops and pushing our content to brand new heights.

    At this stage in development, the most obvious and striking examples of the asset evolution can be found in Reach's sandbox. Thanks to some handy comparison imagery and insights provided by 3D Art Lead Scott Shepherd we can get a better sense of exactly how much improvement is in store for Reach.

    What's Old is New

    From the beginning, the Bungie team had the goal of really raising the bar and building the defining game in our Halo series, improving and evolving literally every system and asset from our decade's worth of development. The Halo series has spawned a number of iconic sandbox elements and many of them will be making a return in Reach, albeit with brand new visual fidelity.

    To save time in production the original plan for the team was to carry over the existing assets from Halo 3 and add a few new polygons here and there and rework some textures to bring them up to the Reach bar. That didn't last long. As Scott explains, "the more we started looking into this, the more we found that realistically we could rebuild each asset from scratch with a huge increase in quality without significantly investing more time."

    As new technical systems came online, the Bungie 3D Art team began to rebuild these timeless assets with impressive results.

    "In some cases we were able to quadruple the budgets of the original Halo 3 assets, really creating an aesthetic that fits perfectly in the Halo Universe but is 100% unique to Reach and and clearly demonstrates what Bungie is capable of," says Scott.

    The image below shows the Assault Rifle as it first appeared in Halo: Combat Evolved then in Halo 3 and finally the new hotness that's coming to Reach. For perspective, the texture resolution is double and the number of polygons is over four times the last incarnation. The AR in Reach actually has more polygons than an entire Marine character did in Halo 3.


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    But how does the art team harness this new horsepower and create something new without losing ties to the original? As Scott puts it, "it's definitely a balancing act to make something fresh and new but still remain faithful to the parts of it that people love."

    "The Assault Rifle is a great example of this where at the start we nearly completely redesigned it. After we put it in the game we got a lot of feedback that while it looked really cool, it just didn't really feel like the AR that people knew and loved. So we actually ended up dialing it back and re-introducing some of the things that made the AR so iconic."

    This same process has been followed for all of the "returning" staples. "The rule we've put in place is to always remain faithful to the spirit of the original asset, if not to the letter." Scott continues, "this allows for a high degree of artist creativity and some surprises while still carrying the impact and history of something people have grown attached to over the last decade."


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    It wouldn't be a Halo game without the Warthog and the new Hog carries forward a tradition upgrades spanning every one of Bungie's titles. (from left: Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3 and Halo: Reach). Click the image above to see the larger resolution to really appreciate the attention to detail that's going into the Reach Warthog.

    A Grunt Ten Years in the Making

    Working on a prequel to the existing Halo saga has provided some new and exciting challenges and opportunities for our entire team. On the art side, it means going back and having some fun visualizing enemies and weapons that predate the later models seen in the more recent games.

    In the case of the newly designed Grunt, inspiration came from a logical place - the early Shiek Wang concept sketches created over ten years ago as Halo: Combat Evolved was taking shape inside a Chicago office building.

    Scott explains it further, "We really wanted to push the visual distinction of variants in Reach. One day Eric, one of our artists, and I were flipping through one of the old Art of Halo books and saw a sketch for a Grunt concept that really liked." That Grunt variant, on the far right in the image below, is internally referred to as the "pony keg" Grunt. "Just goes to show you that good design can really be timeless," notes Scott.


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    I asked Scott which of the returning, newly improved assets has seen the most significant overhaul and it wasn't something he could easily answer.

    "This is tough to answer as I feel everything has gotten a pretty significant overhaul. Some of the most obvious are of course the Spartans and Elites. Being the two primary focal points for this story, we really wanted to show off these characters in the best possible light," explains Scott.

    The Return of the Elite

    From a gameplay perspective it seems safe to say that both internally and externally, everyone is excited about fighting Elites again. These agile, cunning foes really came to define Halo combat and our designers are already hard at work making sure they are every bit as formidable and fun as you remember (and more so).

    On the art side, the Elites were treated differently than some of the other returning 3D assets. According to Scott, "we really wanted the Elites to feel more menacing physically." This began with a major re-design starting from a brand new skeleton and new proportions.

    "The new Elites got significantly larger, with a greater sense of weight and are much more 'animalistic'," explains Scott. "A lot of this was driven by the animation team and their vision for how the Elite should move."

    You can see the result below and the progress that's been made to the model in each game since it originally debuted in Halo: CE.


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    While the new Elite and Spartan models do indeed kick much ass, and are clearly the star players in Reach, it was the progression of the troopers that were most striking to me, personally. I certainly didn't recall ole Captain Keyes being so simple and blocky back in the day but it seems like just yesterday we were all sitting around our desks marveling at the new and improved Marine in Halo 3. And now looking back they all pale in comparison to the level of fidelity and detail the Reach team is bringing to the game.

    It's unknown yet if we'll have the pleasure of seeing a newly realized , higher resolution Robt McLees or Marcus Lehto trooper, first made famous back in Halo: CE when their real faces were mapped onto soldiers. (Also resulting in some highly collectible action figures.)



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    Team Evolved

    With such a big technical leap forward in terms of the game engine and our own tools, the assets appearing in Reach are definitely going to look better than every before but the tech is only part of the equation. It's the twelve full-time and up to a dozen more contract personnel who wield these tools and this power that are ultimately responsible for the outcome.

    As Scott explains, "the tools and tech have grown significantly, in some cases up to four times as many polygons and double the texture resolution, but I really feel the strength of our team has grown just as much."

    By infusing talented new hires and improving upon existing infrastructure the art team is "more comfortable with our tools, our hardware and our abilities to make really incredible art," says Scott.

    Looking Forward

    Of course there's a lot more to Halo: Reach than just much prettier looking versions of existing 3D assets. There's new stuff in store, too. So far you've already seen glimpses of new weapons like the DMR and Needle Rifle as well as the new "Warthog of the sky," the Falcon. Each new item is built with the same painstaking attention to detail as the re-imagined originals, while staying true to the design team's goals and vision for gameplay.

    In the weeks ahead we'll be looking closer at these new sandbox additions as well as the major advancements and investments being made in animation and how the team will be bringing these characters, weapons and vehicles to life like never before.
     
  15. LocKuM

    LocKuM Active Member

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    Die offcenter crosshair was schijnbaar een glitch in theatre mode, aldus een bungie werknemer.
     
  16. Reckuuza

    Reckuuza #ACHTERBUURTHOOLIGAN#LOMPEBOER#NEKDIE#NEKNEKNEKNEK

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    echt 0 verschil in die screens gewoon.
    Die modellen zijn ook lame.
    Care verder die graphics, ook al zijn ze weer net zoals Halo 3. Het wordt toch wel weer dope.
     
  17. Cookie

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    Dat zou het inderdaad wel verklaren. Het zou ontzettend onlogisch zijn als Bungie dit zou veranderen.

    Ben ik het niet mee eens. Ik vind dat de screens van Reach er wel degelijk beter uit zien. Halo was altijd al een spel van de details en de sfeer. Graphics boeien me persoonlijk niet heel veel maar ik weet wel dat je voor een goede sfeer geen perfecte graphics nodig hebt.
     
  18. Defanatic

    Defanatic blauw beest

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    Dat ben ik maar deels met je eens. Wat betreft Halo 3 heb je gelijk maar zeker Halo: combat evolved was toch wel baanbrekend qua graphics. Iedereen verwachte ook van Halo 3 dat het grafisch weer de standaard ging zetten maar op de 360 maar er waren al games die betere graphics hadden toen Halo 3 uitkwam.
     
  19. WHAT

    WHAT Active Member

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    De Marines in Reach vind ik wel mooi. Alleen dat ze Cpt. Keyes laten zien als vergelijking is natuurlijk niet zo goed.
     
  20. Le Lastpak

    Le Lastpak (◕‿◕✿)

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    Gamertag maybe?
     
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