[XOne] Halo 5: Guardians

Discussie in 'Games' gestart door Fiasco, 10 jun 2013.

  1. Lethal AK47

    Lethal AK47 Broodje kroket is leven XBW.nl VIP

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    Tot wanneer is de beta trouwens?
     
  2. xboxlol

    xboxlol Active Member

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    Tot en met de 18de.
     
    Lethal AK47 vindt dit leuk.
  3. Lethal AK47

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    Dank u, Xbox maar weer 's keertje aanslingeren! :)
     
  4. BigKabuto

    BigKabuto Well-Known Member

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    De Stronghold modus is er nu bij en ook de Forge map Pegasus

    Stronghold is best leuk, alleen merk ik nogal rare framerate problemen op in de maps, terwijl je dat bij Slayer niet hebt. Daarnaast vind ik zelf dat de Pegasus map kut is, saai en ziet er echt NIET uit. Man dit is nog lelijker dan een Halo 4 forge map. Wat ik weer tof vind is dat ze voor zowel Slayer als Strongholds voor een AR+BR combi gekozen hebben. Het is in elk geval zeker dat er nog genoeg werk aan de winkel is en natuurlijk dat het een beta is.
     
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  5. assaultpr0

    assaultpr0 Active Member

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    Die nieuwe map is echt naadje niks man. Red team spawned bovenaan de map en wint gewoon standaard als het geen complete debielen zijn. Daarnaast ziet het er inderdaad echt niet uit. Die nieuwe gametype is vet maar heeft inderdaad Framerate problemen. Ook vind ik de ranking een beetje apart. Ik won 8 van de 10 potjes, de twee die we verloren was tegen een volledig team pro's en een keer was het echt nips (96-100) en waar beland ik? Onyx 1. Anderen verliezen 4 potjes en worden zomaar onyx 2. Werkelijk nergens op gebaseerd.

    Verder, mits de AR en SMG generfed worden, de (skillbased) matchmaking beter is en de netcode nog wat verbeterd, ga ik deze game echt compleet kapot spelen.
     
  6. xboxlol

    xboxlol Active Member

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    Tja, erger dan Forge World kan het niet worden. :+ Hij doet me overigens heel erg denken aan die ongetexturede orange maps in Counter Strike Source. 8)

    Vind het beetje jammer dat ze nu weer deze kant opgaan met die map editor. Had liever gezien dat ze een beetje terug gingen naar Halo 3 waar elke map zijn eigen object style had, in plaats van al die grijze blokken.
     
  7. BigKabuto

    BigKabuto Well-Known Member

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    Ja het is absoluut jammer en uiteindelijk hebben ze de Halo 4 MP toen ook bevuild met die Forge maps die gewoon kut waren. Terwijl de standaard Halo 4 slayer maps echt mooi en fun waren, plus de DLC maps. Ik hoop vooral dat dit gewoon testen zijn, beetje experimenteren. 343i moet gewoon een goed aantal echte normale maps in Halo 5 slayer hebben straks en gewoon zo weinig mogelijk Forge.

    Ben echt benieuwd of ze de hogere resolutie gaan halen ermee en dan ook vrij stabiele fps. Ik blijf er helaas bij dat het grafisch mij goed tegenvalt, de enige die nog opzich mooi is, is Truth. Fuck man...ik speel nu skyline uit Halo 4 en die is gewoon veel mooier dan die Empire map bijvoorbeeld.

    En ja ik weet heel goed dat het een beta is maar zoals iemand hier al eerder zei...verwacht naast een hogere resolutie niet heel veel meer en ik denk dat hij gelijk heeft straks. Ik hoop nog steeds dat de eerste campaign footage ons ''shiiiiiiiit, dit is nice!'' doet zeggen.

    Dus tja....grafisch gewoon niets speciaals, maar de gameplay vind ik dan zelf wel echt zeer zeer nice. En uiteindelijk is dat wel het belangrijkst natuurlijk. Hopelijk smijten ze die Forge map er nog even uit na een paar dagen en gooien ze een echte proper map erin.
     
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  8. X-Junk

    X-Junk GT: Reflex Xeros

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    Halo 4 goeie mappen?
    Ik kan me alleen Heaven bedenken.

    Is een smaak ding of course.
     
  9. BigKabuto

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    Haven was tof, dat zeker, maar die andere maps waren ook nice man. Dus er wordt ook al gehaat op de maps van Halo 4? Damn...sorry, ik vond ze juist echt cool.
     
  10. X-Junk

    X-Junk GT: Reflex Xeros

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    Omdat je 1-3 niet gespeeld hebt waarschijnlijk.
    Na H3 is het niks meer imo.
     
  11. Lethal AK47

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    Reach was best leuk... als je Swat speelde. :+
     
  12. MAD 1976

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    Yep, voor SwaT was Reach perfect...de rest was kut.

    Halo 4 had maar verdomd weinig leuke/goede mappen vond ik....
     
  13. Yellow 13

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    Voor de beste Maps moet je ook bij Halo 2 & 3 zijn, al ken ik Halo 2 niet uit eigen ervaring. Halo 3 echter wel, kan me daar geen slechte map herinneren. Die sneeuw map, of dat paarse covenant achtige map, waarbij je aan de zijkanten weggeschoten kon worden. Was daar altijd een frag fest van jewelste, heerlijk.
     
  14. Nightbringer

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    Reach had ook verreweg de beste maps voor SWAT, Halo 4 had gewoon klote maps voor die gametype. Swordbase + Swat was genieten :)
     
  15. Jorrie

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    Halo 3, custom maps _O_

    Op plaatsen waar je niet kon komen normaal gezien kregen ze voor elkaar 8), leverde altijd hilarische momenten op

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    Misschien niet goed te zien maar dit was dus op die grensmuren van Sandtrap, good times. Jammer dat ze dit vanaf Reach de nek hebben omgedraait door timers neer te zetten wanneer je buiten de grenzen komt :mad:
     
  16. xboxlol

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    Reach had naar mijn mening ook een waardeloze map variëteit. Ik was er in ieder geval snel klaar mee. Halo 4 verbeterde het iets maar het is nooit teruggekomen op het niveau van Halo 2 en 3.
     
  17. Jorrie

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    Halo 4 had dan weer die crap loadouts en andere rotzooi die er niet in hoorde, zoals het nu lijkt is dit deel dan weer veel beter! Misschien een X1 waard, we zullen het zien :D
     
  18. BigKabuto

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    Gisteren nog flink gespeeld en kwam erachter dat ze alle maps in Slayer gegooid hebben. Geen Stronghold en die andere modus meer, gewoon Slayer. Ik blijf het qua gameplay echt een heerlijke game vinden en kijk dan ook zeer uit naar de release van de game. Het speelt sneller dan Halo 4, voelt qua bepaalde dingen wat aan als CoD, maar op een goede manier vind ik zelf. Ik mis de loadouts ook echt totaal niet.
     
  19. Hybrid

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    Late last year, we gave you a first look at the future of Halo multiplayer with the release of the Halo 5: Guardians Multiplayer Beta. This was a huge endeavor for everyone on theHalo 5: Guardians team and one that we approached with nervous excitement. After all, this was the earliest that we have ever released a beta for a Halo game, coming almost a year before release. Putting a work-in-progress game out in the wild this early was a leap of faith, and something new for our studio. How would fans react? What results would we find?

    In the past, betas for games on console have typically been used for online scale testing in the weeks prior to a game’s launch. In our case, we provided a true ‘working’ beta that was a snapshot of our game in development. Halo 5: Guardians represents one of the most substantial evolutions of core combat in franchise history. We felt it was crucial to get it in the hands of fans early to ensure we have enough development time to react to key learnings and deliver the best possible game when we release later this year. This represented a shift for us as a team and a studio by sharing the development process with our community and having you help shape the game.

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    The level of engagement and response from our community shattered all of our expectations. Over the course of the three week beta we saw nearly 20 million games played, accounting for 290 years of collective game time. Throughout the beta we monitored feedback channels including web forums, reddit, Twitter and Facebook. From these sources we tracked literally thousands of pieces of detailed feedback.

    To coincide with the beta, we also launched the Halo Community Feedback Program (HCFP) to directly engage with the most passionate and experienced members of our fan base. Over 19,000 of you have already signed up for the HCFP, with the average amount of Halo played per HCFP participant clocking in at over 900 hours (that’s more than 37 days of Halo playtime per participant!). So far, we have conducted two surveys and we plan to continue expanding this program as we see it as an important tool to help shape our game for launch and beyond.

    The team has spent the past few weeks poring over player feedback from the aforementioned sources. From this we have developed an extensive list of improvements for the game. What follows is a short summary of items that we are addressing for launch. Some of these improvements were already in development and didn’t make it in time for the beta. The majority of changes address issues that surfaced during the beta and relate to feedback coming directly from the community. It’s important to point out that there will be a massive list of additional improvements and bug fixes that are notcaptured here, as we hosted this beta almost a year from release.

    SPARTAN ABILITIES




    For Halo 5: Guardians we’ve developed a consistent suite of abilities that are available to all players on the battleground. These abilities give Spartans increased mobility in combat and open up new gameplay possibilities. Throughout the beta we saw fantastic response from fans as they put them through their paces. One of my favorite moments was watching legendary pro Halo player Dave “Walshy” Walsh as he streamed a game of Slayer. Walshy came up behind an unsuspecting enemy and just as he was about to strike for the assassination, his opponent jumped up, using his Thrusters to propel himself back over Dave’s head and take him out with an assassination of his own. The stunned look on Walshy’s face was priceless.

    In the ViDoc that introduced the new Spartan Abilities before the beta went live, I touched on the fact that a portion of the Halo community strongly prefers to play without sprint. The results from the HCFP surveys showed that nearly 11% of HCFP participants felt that Halo should not have sprint. It is important that we continue to evolve Halo multiplayer while ensuring that legacy Halo players feel right at home. As a result, I’m happy to say that we will provide toggles in custom games so that sprint and the other Spartan Abilities can be turned off. By putting these tools in the hands of players we will give them the ability to play the game their way, enabling them to create a more traditional style of Halo if they prefer.

    Some of the other improvements that we are making to Spartan Abilities and general mobility coming out of the beta:

    • Increase base speed (faster base movement)
    • Increase strafe acceleration (faster, more responsive strafing)
    • Reduce top sprint speed (narrow the delta between base movement and sprint)
    • Modify Ground Pound controls to prevent conflicts w/ crouch jumping
    • General tuning & bug fixes for all Spartan Abilities (Thrusters, Clamber, Ground Pound, etc.)
    WEAPONS
    At the core of any first-person shooter is gunplay. For Halo, the experience of aiming and firing weapons is king and we put a lot of effort into making sure that it feels great. We want the player to feel connected to each weapon, so that it feels like a natural extension of the player. We want the right amount of feedback to sell the sensation of firing the weapon. And of course we want all of the weapons to be balanced against one another so that each one is effective within its own encounter range without a single weapon becoming dominant.

    With the introduction of our new Smart-Link aiming system we’ve given all weapons the ability to zoom. This new system creates a more natural feel and reinforces the connection between Spartans and their weapons. The advantages of a zoomed weapon are balanced by the ability to de-scope and force your opponent out of zoom if you land your shots first. Our goal is to balance all weapons to be equally effective both in and out of zoom while continuing to respect the function of each mode.





    Our newest weapon, the Hydra, received a mixed response from fans. Hard to use at first, it took some time for players to realize how effective the Hydra is at curving shots around cover at range from within the new Smart-Link system. Once it clicked, people began mopping up, but many players still felt that the weapon didn’t have enough utility in general combat. We’ll be buffing the weapon to make it more effective out of zoom and ensure that it feels like a true power weapon.

    Some of the other improvements that we’ll be making to weapons in the game follow:

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    • Sniper Rifle: improve scope experience to making it less “clunky” and faster to scope
    • DMR: adjust position of the scope to improve visibility
    • Bring back the SPNKr Rocket Launcher as a legendary version of the weapon
    • Reduce bonuses for automatic weapons in Smart-Link & w/ headshots
    • Remove grenade detonation in mid-air based on weapon fire
    • Ability to turn on/off vibration feedback for weapons
    • General tuning and bug fixing for all weapons
    PRESENTATION
    The arena multiplayer experience was designed with a competitive theme. We imagined this to be a place where Spartans would train against one another in preparation for upcoming battles. As such there would be a certain amount of comradery, gamesmanship and fanfare involved. We approached match presentation as though these showdowns might be broadcast within the UNSC to other enlisted military watching intently as the Spartans trained.

    Each match includes an intro and a victory sequence. These are meant to reinforce your identity within your team, to show important locations within each map prior to battle and to celebrate the winners of the match. Despite the fact that the intro and victory sequences in particular seemed to be universally loved by Halo bros, we weren’t 100 percent satisfied with the tone of these moments in the game. Expect the final sequences to feature considerably fewer chest bumps and high fives.

    Other improvements we’ll be making to presentation based on fan feedback:

    • Post-death replay: this will become an opt-in feature. After death, players will see a traditional follow-cam and have the option to view a replay of their death from the killer’s perspective (as long as the feature is enabled within the playlist)
    • Medals: decrease frequency and number of medals displayed in the medal feed
    • Spartan chatter: players will have the option to turn this on or off in the settings menu
    • Adding highlights to placed/dropped weapons to make them easier to see
    • General tuning for announcer and Spartan chatter to reduce the frequency of events and focus on the information that matters most to players
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    COMPETITIVE SKILL RATING (CSR)
    Halo 5: Guardians features a brand new seven-tier competitive skill rating system. We put an early version of this system through its paces in the beta and uncovered a number of bugs that are being addressed.

    Probably the most common question that we heard about CSR was regarding recognition of individual performance. The system is designed to reflect wins and losses at the team level. Individual performance is not taken into account when calculating bonuses/penalties to CSR; it’s all about team. The one exception is during the initial placement process when the system is solving on individual skill. The biggest complaint we heard was in the case of a losing team member that significantly outperformed the other members of their team. Many players felt that in this case the penalty for losing should be reduced.

    Philosophically we believe that in a team sport the only thing that should matter is wins and losses. We also believe that incentivizing players to prioritize their own individual stats in a team game can undermine team play. A player’s Kill/Death Ratio (the stat that tends to be focused on in these discussions) is not always a reliable indicator of impact on team success. A player may have inflated kills from finishing off enemies that their teammates have damaged, or may have pursued kills at the expense of positioning and map control. The simplest and best way to assess performance within a team sport, is the team’s success.

    Bonuses and penalties are based on the relative strength of the teams at play. Teams are assessed on their collective skill at the beginning of the match. You gain more by winning against a team that is considered to be stronger than your own. Likewise, losing to a more skilled team will result in a lesser penalty to your CSR. These gains and losses are further modified by a player’s individual CSR relative to the teams at play. So for example, a lower tier player gains more from a win than someone at a higher CSR tier. We will continue refining these bonuses & penalties to reflect the difficulty of each match.

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    Our skill rating system is one of the pillars for competitive play of Halo 5: Guardians and we’ll be continuing to refine it throughout development. The focus for our team coming out of the beta includes:

    • Improved skill detection during placement phase
    • Improved skill matching
    • Improved team balancing
    • Prevent skill boosting
    • General bug fixing & tuning
    MATCHMAKING
    One of the challenges with matchmaking for a competitive Halo experience is the need to find matches of appropriate skill (due to the skill gap between players) and ensure that matches don’t start unbalanced. These priorities are weighed against matchmaking speed. If you loosen the skill requirements and allow games to start with less players (backfilling live with join-in-progress) it makes the process much faster, but it does so at the expense of fairness. We need to balance these factors carefully and for beta we weren’t satisfied with the balance that we achieved.

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    Coming out of beta we have a number of fixes and improvements already in flight for matchmaking but at a high level our focus is on the following:

    • Much faster matches
    • Better skill matching
    • Better feedback to players in the lobby and matchmaking experiences
    • Allow players to set desired datacenter for matchmaking (may impact matchmaking speed and skill balance)
    • Improved party vs party matchmaking
    • Hide CSR ranks until in match to de-incentivize quitting
    • Punish quitters with CSR penalties and matchmaking bans
    IN CONCLUSION...
    With the Halo 5: Guardians Multiplayer Beta being held so early in development, there is a laundry list of other bug fixes and improvements that we are tracking as a team. Far too many to document here. Everything from weapon placements on maps, to lighting improvements, to rule tweaks in game modes and modifications to the motion tracker to encourage more movement at higher levels of play. Our team constantly looks for ways to improve the game and we’ll continue to do so until launch later this year and beyond.

    Looking back, this beta has been an amazing gift for us. The feedback we have received from all of you has been invaluable in helping us to improve our game. On behalf of the entire Halo 5: Guardians team, we thank you for your support. We absolutely couldn’t do this without you. I hope you enjoyed your first glimpse into the future of Halo multiplayer and look forward to sharing more with you in the months ahead.

    - JOSH HOLMES, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER
     
  20. Lethal AK47

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    Geen pre-order trouwens voor mij, ik zie het allemaal wel...
     

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