[Discussie] Bestaat er Buitenaards leven? [Deel 2]

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  1. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    Bestaat er buitenaards leven?
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    [GB]Zaken die je 'moet' kennen[/GB]
    Roswell

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    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Roswell

    Phoenix Lights
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    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/The_Phoenix_Lights


    Kenneth Arnold
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold

    George Adamski
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski

    Billy Meier
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    http://theyfly.com/

    De 'Hill abduction'

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    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Hill_Abduction
    http://www.ufocasebook.com/Hill.html

    Battle of LA
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles

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    [GB]Bekendste sub-onderwerpen[/GB]

    Cattle Mutilation

    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Cattle_Mutilations

    Ontvoeringen
    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Abduction

    Graancirkels
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    http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Crop_Circles
    http://claudescommentary.com/special/chilbolton/

    UFO sightings

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    A History of UFO pictures

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    http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures.html


    Maan/Mars
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    [gb]Documentaires[/gb]
    UFO - The Greatest Story Ever Denied

    Capturing the Light

    Who built the Pyramids?
    UFO - Pyramids - Alien Or Human Made? - Part #1 Of 3
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    UFO - Pyramids - Alien Or Human Made? - Part #2 Of 3
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    UFO - Pyramids - Alien Or Human Made? - Part #3 Of 3
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    Area 51 - The Alien Interview

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    Audio Interview over 'Alien Moon Bases'
    Als ze over die foto's beginnen, neem dan even deze site erbij.
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    Black Box Secrets
    http://www.guba.com/watch/2000921008


    The Disclosure Project
    De video van de persconferentie


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    [GB]Hoezo het heelal is niet groot?[/GB]



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    [GB]Astronauten aan het woord[/GB]

    Major Gordon Cooper


    One of the original Mercury Astronauts and the last American to fly in space alone. On May 15, 1963, he shot into space in a Mercury capsule for a 22 orbit journey around the world. During the final orbit, Major Gordon Cooper told the tracking station at Muchea (near Perth Australia) that he could see a glowing, greenish object ahead of him quickly approaching his capsule. The UFO was real and solid, because it was picked up by Muchea's tracking radar.

    Cooper's sighting was reported by the National Broadcast Company, which was covering the flight step by step; but when Cooper landed, reporters were told that they would not be allowed to question him about the UFO sighting.

    Major Cooper was a firm believer in UFOs. Ten years earlier, in 1951 he had sighted a UFO while piloting an F-86 Sabrejet over Western Germany. They were metallic, saucer-shaped discs at considerable altitude and could out-maneuver all American fighter planes.

    Major Cooper also testified before the United Nations:
    "I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs."

    "I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observation of many flights of them, of different sizes, flying in fighter formation, generally from east to west over Europe."

    And according to a taped interview by J. L. Ferrando, Major Cooper said:

    "For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public.

    Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means."

    "I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentations left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed...I happen to know that authority did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panicky reaction from the public."

    Ed White & James McDivitt


    In June 1965, astronauts Ed White (first American to walk in space), and James McDivitt were passing over Hawaii in a Gemini spacecraft when they saw a weird-looking metallic object. The UFO had long arms sticking out of it. McDivitt took pictures with a cine-camera. Those pictures have never been released.

    James Lovell and Frank Borman


    In December 1965, Gemini astronauts James Lovell and Frank Borman also saw a UFO during their second orbit of their record-breaking 14 day flight. Borman reported that he saw an unidentified spacecraft some distance from their capsule. Gemini Control, at Cape Kennedy told him that he was seeing the final stage of their own Titan booster rocket. Borman confirmed that he could see the booster rocket all right, but that he could also see something completely different.

    During James Lovell's flight on Gemini 7:

    Lovell: BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

    Capcom: This is Houston. Say again 7.
    Lovell: SAID WE HAVE A BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

    Capcom: Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?
    Lovell: WE HAVE SEVERAL...ACTUAL SIGHTING.

    Capcom: ...Estimated distance or size?

    Lovell: WE ALSO HAVE THE BOOSTER IN SIGHT...

    Neil Armstrong & Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin

    According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the Aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon.

    According to hitherto un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.

    According to a former NASA employee Otto Binder, unnamed radio hams with their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets picked up the following exchange:

    NASA: Whats there?
    Mission Control calling Apollo 11...

    Apollo11: These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, Lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us!

    A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.

    Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?

    Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility, the fact is, we were warned off!(by the Aliens). There was never any question then of a space station or a moon city.

    Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?

    Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology - Boy, were they big!...and menacing! No, there is no question of a space station.

    Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

    Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a quick scoop and back again.

    According to a Dr. Vladimir Azhazha:

    "Neil Armstrong relayed the message to Mission Control that two large, mysterious objects were watching them after having landed near the moon module. But this message was never heard by the public -- because NASA censored it."

    According to a Dr. Aleksandr Kasantsev, Buzz Aldrin took color movie film of the UFOs from inside the module, and continued filming them after he and Armstrong went outside.

    Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the
    cover-up.

    Donald Slayton


    Donald Slayton a Mercury astronaut revealed in an interview he had seen UFOs in 1951:

    "I was testing a P-51 fighter in Minneapolis when I spotted this object. I was at about 10,000 feet on a nice, bright, sunny afternoon. I thought the object was a kite, then I realized that no kite is gonna fly that high."

    As I got closer it looked like a weather balloon, gray and about three feet in diameter. But as soon as I got behind the darn thing it didn't look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer, a disk.

    About the same time, I realized that it was suddenly going away from me -- and there I was, running at about 300 miles per hour. I tracked it for a little way, and then all of a sudden the damn thing just took off. It pulled about a 45 degree climbing turn and accelerated and just flat disappeared."

    Major Robert White


    On July 17, 1962 Major Robert White reported a UFO during his fifty-eight-mile high flight of an X-15. Major White reported:

    "I have no idea what it could be. It was grayish in color and about thrity to forty feet away."

    Then according to a Time Magazine article, Major White exclaimed over the radio:

    "There ARE things out there! There absolutely is!"

    NASA Pilot Joseph A. Walker


    On May 11, 1962 NASA pilot Joseph Walker said that one of his tasks was to detect UFOs during his X-15 flights. He had filmed five or six UFOs during his record breaking fifty-mile-high flight in April, 1962. It was the second time he had filmed UFOs in flight. During a lecture at the Second National Conference on the Peaceful Uses of Space Research in Seattle, Washigton he said:

    "I don't feel like speculating about them. All I know is what appeared on the film which was developed after the flight." - Joseph Walker

    To date none of those films has been released to the public for viewing.

    Commander Eugene Cernan


    Eugene Cernan was commander of Apollo 17. In a Los Angeles Times article in 1973 he said, about UFOs:

    "...I've been asked (about UFOs) and I've said publicly I thought they (UFOs) were somebody else, some other civilization."

    NASA's Maurice Chatelain


    In 1979 Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems confirmed that Armstrong had indeed reported seeing two UFOs on the rim of a crater. Chatelain believes that some UFOs may come from our own solar system -- specifically Titan.

    "The encounter was common knowledge in NASA, but nobody has talked about it until now."

    "...all Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name. Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence."

    "I think that Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public. It was a little different when James Lovell on board the Apollo 8 command module came out from behind the moon and said for everybody to hear: 'PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.' Even though this happened on Christmas Day 1968, many people sensed a hidden meaning in those words."

    The rumors persist. NASA may well be a civilian agency, but many of its programs are funded by the defence budget and most of the astronauts are subject to military security regulations. Apart from the fact that the National Security Agency screens all films and probably radio communications as well. We have the statements by Otto Binder, Dr. Garry Henderson and Maurice Chatelain that the astronauts were under strict orders not to discuss their sightings. And Gordon Cooper has testified to a United Nations committee that one of the astronauts actually witnessed a UFO on the ground. If there is no secrecy, why has this sighting not been made public?

    NASA's Scott Carpenter


    "At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."

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    Astronaut Edgar Mitchell


    Last night was another ground breaking testimony from Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell on Kerrang Radio. During the interview Dr. Mitchell further elaborated on previous statements about extraterrestrial life in the universe and possible full disclosure in the near future.

    Note From The Interview : By "UFO REALITY" from ATS

    Edgar Mitchell says there IS life in the Universe.

    He says we have been visited, and that UFOs have been covered up by the government for a long time.

    The host almost has a stroke during the interview he's so shocked.

    Edgar says it is a real phenomena.

    He says he's been inside military circles and they know we've been visited and talk about it behind closed doors.

    He says he's been involved in certain research committees and knows people who know the real story.

    There is quite a bit of contact going on.

    The Roswell crash was real.

    Doesn't know if Disclosure will be this year or not...

    Public acceptance is increasing.

    Not all UFOs are of ET origin. Some are home-grown. But some are ET crafts.

    He's not concerned about his safety talking about it openly anymore.

    Alien intent is not hostile.

    Some others involved in the Moon landing also know the truth.

    The host made the point that this is the first time Edgar has stated so clearly that ET life exists and UFOs are real. He's hinted at it, but this is the first time ever...

    Well to add fuel to the conspiracies what you would think would be ground breaking news world wide has resulted in links via google with error codes "funny that"... but I do believe that Kerrang are going to replay the interview this week at: http://www.whatson.com/kerrang/

    For more information here are some previous Interviews with Edgar Mitchell

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=CtUe8f9L0_o

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1fTLzrIU_BU&feature=related

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_8jiSFNmTms&feature=related

    source & references:

    http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=207:et-&catid=1:latest


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    [GB]UFO Facts[/GB]

    [​IMG] Myth: Very few people have really seen a UFO...
    Fact: According to a Roper poll conducted in 2002 for the SciFi channel, one in seven Americans say they or someone they know has had an experience involving a UFO...

    A total of 14 percent have had or know someone who has had at least one Close Encounter of the "First," "Second," or "Third" kind. The largest proportion (12 percent) say they or someone else they know has seen a UFO at close quarters.

    Source: Coalition for Freedom of Information (http://www.freedomofinfo.org/national_poll.html)

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    Myth: Airline pilots never see UFOs, so they must not be real...
    Fact:
    There have been many cases of pilot sightings ever since the 1940s...

    The most convincing UFO reports were produced in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s by airline pilots, military pilots and ex-military pilots. These men had the training and the experience to be able to distinguish between normal sky sights and highly abnormal sights. They knew what airplanes looked like, and what meteors looked like, having seen them many times. Their visual observations were frequently supported by radar data which showed essentially the same thing. They were therefore able, on many occasions, to methodically eliminate conventional phenomena from consideration when trying to identify UFOs.

    In those same decades, most UFO sightings were made in the daytime and frequently at close range, when shapes and surface features could be distinguished, thus making positive identification of normal sights easier and the descriptions of unusual sights more detailed. When all normal explanations had been eliminated, the witnesses could concentrate on those aspects of the experience which were most abnormal. ​
    These abnormal aspects included the shapes of UFOs and their behavior. Most of the UFOs seen in the daytime were said to have had simple geometric shapes--discs, ovals, spheres, cylinders--and surfaces that looked like metal. Such shapes are not only nonexistent among known aircraft, but contrary to all known theories of flight, in most cases offering control and performance disadvantages rather than advantages.

    Source: Don Berliner, The Fund for UFO Research, Inc.; 2002
    (http://www.freedomofinfo.org/poll/roper02.html)

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    Myth: UFOs are only reported by uneducated farmers in places you've never heard of...
    Fact: A study by the U.S. Air Force showed that the most puzzling UFO reports came from people who had the best technical backgrounds. They are reported from everyplace where there are people, though fewer are seen from big cities because less of the sky is visible.


    UFOs are reported by every type of person: uneducated yokels and PhDs; laborers and corporation presidents; truck drivers and airline captains; little kids, their parents and their grandparents. People in every state, every province and every country. They are reported by people who are convinced every light in the sky is an alien craft, and by other people who are convinced that no one as smart as them ever sees odd things in the sky.

    People in rural areas may see more UFOs because they can see more of the sky and because they may look at the sky more often. Big city people have a poor view of the sky, and they are usually too busy to look up. Generally speaking, UFOs are seen by people who happen to be in the right place at the right time.

    Source: Don Berliner, The Fund for UFO Research, Inc. (http://www.fufor.com/faq2.htm#17)

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    Myth: The U. S. Air Force investigated UFOs and concluded there was nothing to them...
    Fact: The Air Force had an official UFO investigation from 1948 to 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book), and collected more than 12,500 reports. It claims to have explained all but about 701 of them, but the facts of most of those reports strongly suggest that something important was seen.


    The U.S. Air Force claims to have explained all but 701 of its reports, though by actual count the number is 584. But as so many of these were made by military and airline pilots, and other unexplained sightings involved radar tracking, they are the heart of the matter. Hundreds of other reports in the official files are alleged to have been explained, but are full of unscientific and illogical reasoning.

    If so many cases are admittedly unexplained, they cannot be used to support any conclusions, as the nature and origins of unexplained cases are, by definition, unknown. If you add those cases that are only "possibly" explained, the total lacking convincing explanations tops 50%, which strongly suggests that the official investigation was a failure.

    Source: Don Berliner, The Fund for UFO Research, Inc. (http://www.fufor.com/faq2.htm#1:cool:

    Myth: UFOs are only seen by Americans...
    Fact: UFOs have been seen wherever there are people. Every continent has had its share, as has almost every country, though local interest plays a role in the apparent level of activity. Wherever there is someone interested in searching out UFO reports, they will be found, but that doesn't mean the investigator lives in a center of activity.


    Some of the first UFOs were seen in Europe and the Pacific (see FAQs #5 and #6). Since then, they have been reported from all continents and probably all countries. There have been major waves of sightings not only in the USA, but in Great Britain, France, Belgium, Russia and elsewhere. Official and private organizations have been established in many countries to study their sightings, and their results are similar to other countries'. The same kinds and variety of UFOs are seen most places, and this has changed little over the years.

    In late 1944, following a gradual build-up of activity, "foo-fighters" were reported in large numbers. Pilots of American and British bombers and night fighters over occupied France and over Germany described glowing balls that flew in formation with them for long periods and then just flew away. The first "explanation" was that they must be experimental German anti-aircraft weapons that were being tested prior to being put into action. But the war ended without a single "foo-fighter" showing unfriendliness. Explainers then tried to blame German jet and rocket fighters in night operations. But it was later determined that there may have been only a single night flight by any German jet, and none by their rocket-powered fighters.

    At about the same time in the Pacific Theater of War, American bombers were followed for hours by bright lights that eventually turned away. Military officials said they were Japanese suicide planes, and that is how they show up in official mission reports. But suicide planes never flew at night, and they never followed our bombers for long periods of time without doing anything. The war ended with hundreds of reports still unexplained.

    Source: Don Berliner, The Fund for UFO Research, Inc. (http://www.fufor.com/faq2.htm#27)

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    Myth: UFOs have only been seen since 1947...
    Fact: There are UFO reports in newspapers and literature dating back to 1865 and even earlier...


    For a partial list of significant UFO cases throughout history, check out the UFO Casebook website: http://www.ufocasebook.com/casefiles.html


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    [gb]Opmerkingen[/gb]
    +Denk er van wat je wilt, maar breng je mening met respect!+


    Ik heb wat van de startpost proberen te maken, maar aangezien zoveel open is voor interpretatie kan ik er niet al te veel mee doen.
    Area 51! Dulce! Iapetus! En nog een hoop andere zaken heb ik niet genoemd. Maar die zullen denk ik wel weer in dit topic aan bod komen. En het is al lang genoeg.

    Zorg er iig voor dat je het filmpje van het Disclosure Project hebt gezien. Samen met UFO - The Greatest story ever denied.

    Die andere filmpjes zijn even goed vermakelijk en/of interessant, maar dat zijn imo de belangrijkste.

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  2. scarluuk

    scarluuk Hail me!

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    erg mooie startpost dulle :eek: maarja we zijn niks anders gewend van jou :9
    p.s. 1e post!
     
  3. Pitakaas

    Pitakaas Guest

    Tja, leuke startpost, maar het gaat veel te veel over buitenaards intelligent leven. Aliens enz.
     
  4. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    thnx. ;)
    Klopt! :)
    Dat is voor mij juist het idee achter dit topic.
    Natuurlijk mag er gepraat worden over bacterieel leven, maar ja...dat is minder interessant! :+
     
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  5. Willem

    Willem Obi-Willem XBW.nl Bestuur

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    Want dat is er vast wel! Toch?
     
  6. Pitakaas

    Pitakaas Guest

    Dat is zeker waar ja.
     
  7. SPiRiT

    SPiRiT lekker scheuren

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    zonder bacterieel leven geen werkend darmkanaal, en dus ook geen mensen \o/

    wel jammer dat we daardoor dan ook weer scheten moeten laten, maar met een vuurtje erbij is dat dan ook weer eens leuk :thumbs:

    en trouwens, twee weken geleden hoorde ik dat laatst 1 of andere sateliet of zoiets een grote methaan wolk heeft ontdekt in de atmosfeer van Mars, misschien ook een gevolg van levende bacterien die scheetjes laten?

    op zich wel een vrij nutteloze discussie, want ookal is het nog niet ontdekt, ontkennen dat op/in de meeste planeten waarschijnlijk gewoon microleven aanwezig is, lijkt me gewoon stom en voor mij staat dat gewoon vast
     
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  8. Jeffer

    Jeffer Pearl Jam

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    Wow een SM marsmannetje bovenaan de startpost O-) Maar het is een leuke startpost om even door te snuffelen. Ik ga niet al die youtube filmpjes bekijken maar die artikeltjes waren wel leuk :)
     
  9. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    Hoe kon ik deze vergeten! :eek:

    De 'Hill abduction'

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    http://www.ufocasebook.com/Hill.html
     
  10. SPiRiT

    SPiRiT lekker scheuren

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    Och ja, Zeta Reticuli Star System

    ben ik ook geweest, maar raad het af, de aliens daar hebben totaal geen manieren of gevoel voor humor.

    Dan maar liever naar het 3e daluniversum, daar kan je tenminste wel lachen.
     
  11. ExQuiZ

    ExQuiZ Active Member

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    ik ben cylon
     
  12. DulleNL

    DulleNL I'm a little teapot Magic Member

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    Speculatie, maar wel leuk.
     
  13. ExQuiZ

    ExQuiZ Active Member

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    klinkt in mijn oren als een grote hoop kak....waarom nou net weer de president :p

    maarja als het je fascineert...mij best, maar volgens mij gewoon tijdverspilling! Ben er overigens wel van overtuigd dat er buitenaards leven is ergens. zou zelfs raar zijn als dat er niet was...helal is zo groot. Maar dit soort speculaties gaan mij wat te ver !

    maar misschien leven ze wel tussen ons, zoals cylonss ooeehhhh..maar dat zijn geen aliens
     
  14. *NERAZZURRI*

    *NERAZZURRI* Active Member

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    Dat zou dan moeten zijn omdat ie de president van het machtigste land op aarde is waarschijnlijk ;)
     
  15. venom NL

    venom NL Active Member

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    Of omdat Amerikanen een ongezonde voorliefde hebben voor complottheorieën ;)

    Maar er zijn ongetwijfeld andere planeten met enig soort van leven in welk stadium dan ook.
    Ons zonnestelsel wordt beschreven als "gemiddeld".
    Waarom zou er dan geen leven zijn ergens in de ontelbare andere stelsels...
    De kans dat ze hier komen is volgens mij nihil.

    1)De afstanden in het heelal zijn onvoorstelbaar gigantisch. Dan moeten ze heel ver zijn in ruimtereizen.

    2)Het zou heel misschien kunnen dat wij nog eens een keer in aanraking komen met ruimte-afval of onbemande vaartuigen.

    :cool:volgens de wetenschappers is er een "big bang" geweest en daardoor schieten we nog steeds bij het middelpunt van de explosie weg, waardoor de afstanden steeds groter worden en als je een ruimtereis naar verschillende stelsels wilt maken, je dus steeds een andere route en afstand moet afleggen.

    Laten we ons eerst maar bezig houden ons eigen planeetje niet te vernielen, en dan pas onze buren te zoeken, om hun antwoorden te vragen.
     
  16. warbladex

    warbladex Active Member

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    je zegt dat ruimtereizen heel lang duren maar op national geograpic hadden ze onderzocht hoe ze tijdreisde met die zwarte gaten en als die shit alleen jammer dat wij te slappe voertuigen daar voor hebben
     
  17. Bassie

    Bassie No lollygaggin'

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    Gast, zwarte gaten trekken toch alles uitelkaar? Dan bedoel ik, elk element die wij hier op aarde hebben? Ik zal laatst een documentaire erover. Ik dacht eerst dat het maar een fabeltje was. :+

    Er zijn trouwens nieuwe elementen gevonden een paar jaar geleden, die echt awesome sterk zijn. :9 Misschien kunnen ze daar wat mee.
     
  18. *NERAZZURRI*

    *NERAZZURRI* Active Member

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    Een zwart gat trekt alles naar zich toe, inclusief licht, vandaar dat het een zwart gat is (geen licht in en rond de kern.

    Misschien dat daar ooit gebruik van gemaakt kan worden door middel van centrifugale krachten ofzo, net zoals we nu doen met ruimtesondes en de zwaartekracht van planeten, maar voorlopig zijn zwarte gaten veel te ver weg om gebruik van te maken. Die lichtjaren overbruggen is al godsonmogelijk voor ons.

    Wat voor elementen bedoel je trouwens, BassieJ?
     
  19. Bassie

    Bassie No lollygaggin'

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    Dan moet ik weer ff terugzoeken welke documentaire het was. Het was in ieder geval in een space week ofzo. Met allemaal documentaires over dat soort dingen. Erg interessant, hoewel je echt heel veel van t zelfde zag. :+
     
  20. SPiRiT

    SPiRiT lekker scheuren

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    nieuwe elementen, misschien bedoel je nieuwe materiaalen, want nieuwe elementen die gevonden worden zijn meestal instabiel of radioactief dacht ik, en niet echt nuttig te gebruiken. Misschien ging het over een theorie over elementen die nuttige kunnen zijn voor dit soort dingen?

    Trouwens zwarte gaten bestaan volgens mij ook uit een superzwaar(e) element(en), vandaar de superzwaartekracht, en ja, die zwaartekracht is goed te gebruiken om een Ruimteschip te versnellen, en trekt je niet uit elkaar als je maar niet te dicht erlangs gaat, net als een sateliet die niet op aarde crashed als ie maar in zijn baan blijft.

    Die Keppel telescoop is trouwens ook vet, hopelijk wordt ie door aliens neergeschoten 8)
     
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