[Algemeen] Nintendo Wii [Deel 3]

xbox3604life · 31 mrt 2007

wat mij trouwens opvalt is dat ik bij heel veel reviews verschillende meningen zie over de controls en daardoor ook de cijfers sterk beinvloed worden. zo vind ign de controls van dragonball goed en geven ze het spel een relatief hoog cijfer. gamespot een relatief laag cijfer en begint al met de zin: "Burdened by clumsy controls and predictable artificial intelligence, Tenkaichi 2 is a game that can be loved only by forgiving DBZ fans."

dit was ook al het geval bij ssx blur en waarschijnlijk wel meerdere spellen.

xbox3604life · 31 mrt 2007

omg! heb goed nieuws gevonden. smackdown vs raw 2008 komt op de wii.

Eyes-on with SmackDown vs. Raw 2008
Take that Nintendo Wii remote of yours, shine it up real nice, turn it sideways...
by Bozon

March 30, 2007 - While you've undoubtedly gotten your fair share of "multi-console" info on THQ's SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 yesterday in our exclusive interview, the brief chat we had with THQ reps was not too Wii specific. New details emerged regarding the main career mode, the amount of effort going into the pure realism in this year's brawler, but tasty bits of Wii info were left for another day. Apparently that day came sooner than we thought, though, as THQ has revealed the Wii version today in the Grand Ballroom of the Atheneum Suite Hotel here in Detroit.

The main presentation for the game was based solely on multi-console info, detailing the goals for the game's development when moving from 2007 to 2008. As the primary focus, SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 is looking to improve key animations, combine the main GM and Season mode together for a new WWE 24/7 mode, implement a new fighting style system into the game, and tweak the submission controls. The focus of today's presentation was spent on the fighting styles and submission moves almost entirely, as we were given glimpses of the 360 version demonstrating the eight fighting styles (hardcore, high flyer, submission artist, powerhouse, brawler, showman, and dirty) and how they effected gameplay. For more information on the basics of the multi-console version, check out our full interview found here.

At the closing of the presentation, however, talk was moved away from general facts and towards the Wii version specifically, as we were treated to an eyes-on with a very (and we stress very) early build of the game. The demo consisted of two players, taking the roles of HHH and John Cena in one-on-one competition. Demonstrating a few core motion controls off the bat, players used overhand strikes, jabs, and backhands all with the Wii remote to pull off each specific motion. The amount of dead time between action and reaction was surprisingly short, as the motions translated quickly to each attack with very little error. Every once and a while HHH would go for a backhand only to have a main jab pulled off, but as we said the game was very early in development, and exact Wii motion is something developers have been having issues with since launch.

When moving on to more precise moves, however, it became apparent that Wii wasn't just a port with lazy controls, and that there's some definite potential in THQ's latest game. Players moved on to more complex moves, charging a makeshift power-bar to perform a grapple, and then literally raising their hands into the air to lift them. The drop was user-based as well, so in a few different instances HHH would lift Cena into a choke slam or power-bomb, hold him for an uncomfortable amount of time, and slam him down only when the player slammed his hands down.

Along those same lines, actions such as turnbuckle punching (with Cena standing a few rungs up, hammering down on HHH with downward jabs) were also dictated by the user. A few punches were pulled off, then a short break was taken to give a hello to the crowd, and then it was straight back to pummeling Hunter to the ground. As the roles switched, however, there seemed to be some motion detection issues because the second player couldn't pull off any punches while mounted on the turnbuckle. Again, it's a pre-alpha build of the game.

Moving away from main offense, players also used motion control to deliver humiliating taunts, and it was - if nothing else - hilarious to watch. DX's classic "suck it" motion was pulled off with both hands, as HHH mocked a downed Cena before lifting him back up with a quick Wii-mote/nunchuk motion. Later in the match HHH used a second taunt, raising his arms in the air and screaming - again controlled with the Wii-mote/nunchuk combination.

From what we saw, the developers have a solid understanding of how to translate Wii motion into direct gameplay. Actions such as kicking, submissions, using specials, throwing a competitor into the ropes, leaving the ring, or using weapons weren't demonstrated, and it seemed that the majority of Wii control came from the Wii remote itself and not the nunchuk. The game looks to be in its initial "proof of concept" phase, so it's possible that there's no interface, character select, or actual end to the match demo even in place, so a more in-depth synopsis of the motion control will have to wait. Still, from what we saw today there's definite potential in SmackDown vs. Raw 2008.

A Brief Follow-Up With Yukes
After the presentation, IGN had a moment to chat briefly with Japanese developer Yukes about the Wii version in particular. While there wasn't a ton of info the team could divulge at this time, it was great to chat briefly with lead programmer Takashi Takezawa and director Yoshio Togiya about the game, and they seemed very enthused about the Wii version in particular.

The game's development cycle on Wii began early in January, so while the core game has been developed previous to that, designing the Wii-specific sections (primarily the controls) began just three months ago. The team compares the visual presentation to a combination of the PS2 and Xbox versions of the game (editor's note: The character models look about at the original Xbox level, while the arena backdrop was very low-poly and PS2-like). The team couldn't go into specific detail on how some of the missing action would be pulled off by did mention that "Motions used in SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 are going to be very different from something like Wii Sports Baseball or Tennis, or even Boxing. They are very intricate, so right now we're working on how to develop specific motion controls for very complicated moves."

SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 (360 version) is looking to bring the pain.

No mention was made about online mode or the support of 16 or 480p in the game, aside from simply stating that "SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 will be supporting online, but we cant comment on the Wii version specifically at this time." From what we saw from today's presentation, we'd fully expect the game to include 16 and 480p though. Since the team's hands were tied at this point in development, we asked them simply to comment on the Wii version as a whole, and how the game's development has been going thus far.

"One of the main things I want to let readers know about how we're developing the game is that when we initially brought the action animations over to the Wii for motion control there was time lag, and the responsiveness didn't feel right in its original state. Obviously when you bring something as complicated as a wrestling title over to Wii it's very important that the actions, and the timing, and the responsiveness is there. So we're really putting a ton of effort and time into making sure the game really feels right on Wii. So we really want our readers to look forward to that," said Yoshio Togiya. "Bringing the Wii version out this year along with the other versions definitely increased our work flow substantially, but it also increased the general ability to add in a lot of fun to the title, since the Wii has so many aspects that we can't use on other systems, it really encouraged us to make the wrestling experience more fun for those fans."

So while the Wii version exists in purely demo form, we're already starting to see how things will play out for SmackDown vs. Raw 2008. The game has a decent overall look, makes great use of Wii motion controls even in its initial state, and is noticeably faster and more of an arcade experience on the system, something that THQ has noted numerous times about the Wii version specifically. We're looking forward to more details soon, but from what we can tell SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 is certainly a title to follow over the coming months.

We'll have more on SmackDown vs Raw 2008 as news breaks, and be sure to keep checking back to IGN.com for the latest on WWE info as we near Wrestlemania.
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iRoy · 31 mrt 2007

xbox3604life zei: ↑

wat mij trouwens opvalt is dat ik bij heel veel reviews verschillende meningen zie over de controls en daardoor ook de cijfers sterk beinvloed worden. zo vind ign de controls van dragonball goed en geven ze het spel een relatief hoog cijfer. gamespot een relatief laag cijfer en begint al met de zin: "Burdened by clumsy controls and predictable artificial intelligence, Tenkaichi 2 is a game that can be loved only by forgiving DBZ fans."

dit was ook al het geval bij ssx blur en waarschijnlijk wel meerdere spellen.
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Ik vind de controls bij DBZ:BT2 juist wel goed. Ze reageren niet altijd even goed, maar dat is bij veel Wii games het geval. Het speelt iig erg goed!

Cyndris · 31 mrt 2007

achter op het hoesje van DBZ:BT2 voor de wii staat dat er een paar extra characters zijn toegevoegd en een extra plaats waar je kan vechten. Weet iemand welke dat dan zijn?

kenshin · 31 mrt 2007

Yes, PAL will have more characters, just like the Japanese version. It will also have an extra stage.

The extra characters are (as if this hasn't been said enough ): Cyborg Taopaipai, Piccolo Daimao, Pilaf in his Mech + a transformation of Pilaf in his Mech merged with Shu and Mai, a random Freiza henchman and Appule, another Frieza henchman, but at least he has name

The stage will be Space, on Frieza's spaceship, with Planet Vegeta on the background.

Speedy NL · 31 mrt 2007

DBZ BT2 heeft ook best een pittige moeilijkheidsgraad.. en vind de motion controls best goed!

heb btw vandaag zon Wii Power Station ontvangen.. btje jammer dat nintendo niet zo slim was om op het idee te komen.

http://www.joytech.nl/product/15324/1290/game-stuff/nintendo/wii-power-station/

Eindelijk van de pakjes batterijen kopen af!

Cyndris · 1 apr 2007

kenshin zei: ↑

Yes, PAL will have more characters, just like the Japanese version. It will also have an extra stage.

The extra characters are (as if this hasn't been said enough ): Cyborg Taopaipai, Piccolo Daimao, Pilaf in his Mech + a transformation of Pilaf in his Mech merged with Shu and Mai, a random Freiza henchman and Appule, another Frieza henchman, but at least he has name

The stage will be Space, on Frieza's spaceship, with Planet Vegeta on the background.
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k thanx. Ik moet zelf nog 1 character vrij spelen (PS2 versie)

DulleNL · 1 apr 2007

pfff. Wanneer worden die dingen eindelijk wer eens een beetje fatsoenlijk leverbaar :{

Ik wil nu ook wel eens aan de slag met de Wii

Shcaap · 1 apr 2007

Heb je nog niet zo'n ding?

Metal Mark · 1 apr 2007

WiiHelm

Weet niet of jullie hem al hebben gezien maar ik lig hier wel ff te ROFL

DulleNL · 1 apr 2007

Shcaap zei: ↑

Heb je nog niet zo'n ding?
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nee, anders vroeg ik het niet

kenshin · 1 apr 2007

ik heb er ook nog steeds geen 1 weten te bemachtingen overal bij bij mij in de buurt(spijkenisse) wachtlijst van minimaal 15 personen

Novo · 2 apr 2007

nevermind

falcon NL · 2 apr 2007

Ja dat was ik

ik zat me te vervelen dus ik dacht maak even een peentje over de Wii,

iOcat · 2 apr 2007

falcon NL zei: ↑

Ja dat was ik

ik zat me te vervelen dus ik dacht maak even een peentje over de Wii,

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Erg nice gedaan

Ik speel de laatste tijd niet zo heel veel meer op de Wii, eigenlijk alleen waarvoor ik hem heb gekocht.. gezellig met een groep vrienden Wii sporten ofzo

Cyndris · 3 apr 2007

ik heb nu de wii al gewoon een week +weekend niet aangeraakt. Ik kan het maar steeds nét niet opbrengen om verder te gaan met splinter cell

Speedy NL · 3 apr 2007

omdat de besturing ruk is of wat anders

kenshin · 3 apr 2007

ik heb er nog steeds geen 1 dus kan er niet over meepraten

Wii · 3 apr 2007

Verleidelijke game komt er bij. Mario smash football op 25 mei MET Online functie. Dit begint wel erg verleidelijk te worden eerst maar eens even Paper mario kopen, want zelda begint nu te vervelen.

Speedy NL · 3 apr 2007

je kan hem pas kopen als ie er is..

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